[Serious Phil] Extra Red Fred (reply to Eray)

Eray Ozkural examachine at gmail.com
Mon Jun 18 20:22:20 CDT 2012


On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 4:05 AM, larry_tapper <
Philscimind at undergroundwiki.org> wrote:

>
> If you ask me, that case can be made. In fact it has been made by the
> reformed Jackson. But it's not quite so simple as the adequacy of our
> theory of Fred being strongly confirmed by instantiation, which shows that
> the theory is all the knowledge we need. You are right to point out that
> the theory has to come first, only then can we build the emulation. But
> Jackson didn't deny that, or overlook the possibility of the emulation. His
> original point was that while the theory may come first, it still leaaves
> something out.
>
>
It doesn't leave anything out. The theory can still fully specify what
color experience is physically.

The transplantation of color experience merely means that information is
physical, and that you need to make physical changes to transfer all
information. Transplanting a brain part, in this case, is precisely that,
translation of physical information from one body to the other.

Therefore, his argument would be true if and only if knowledge were
independent of physical medium, but clearly it isn't.

Some other grand problems with his view, essentially trivializing all of
his observations about experience, are related in a recent post in response
in PDJ.

Best,

-- 
Eray Ozkural, PhD candidate.  Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ai-philosophy
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